Yes, I tend to think that the Baptists have every right to disparage the disorderly mess that was made of that whole thing. But, anyway, it could be helpful to have actual facts at hand with which to better analyze the situation, not just to fall into a bitter rage. Where is the fruit of the Spirit in railing and ranting senselessly? A Fall-Well would be a useless exercise in futility, given that a fall is a fall, whether well done or NOT. And where is the benefit in falling? Then it takes much longer to get back to the point where we might have advanced our knowledge, so that why all this blah blah blah about Fall-Well. It is no secret by now that the Liberty Bell is cracked from an early age.