Yes, maybe there really is something sourish about that Crabapple tree, although I actually do not remember who it was who said that. Perhaps it was just something that they were always throwing at other outside people who do not fit their particular mold, in order to exalt themselves as the untouchable exalted ones, which perhaps only a few people would be able to get that. Certainly I consider myself indifferent to this point, given that I never had much connection to San Jose. A little bird said that some of my Dad's cousins live there on the Foursquare side of it, but I don't know them. We never met.