Yes, I vaguely remember that while my sister was rooming with Jill and Linda, I was there visiting, and we went Christmas caroling, and also they introduced us to Martinelli's apple cider, which is admittedly delicious, and would be so even without the fancy bottle, even if you have to read the fine print to figure out that it is non-alcoholic, or else be introduced to it by someone who knows about these things. I forget what exactly Linda was saying about the apple cider, something about a family business in Northern California, maybe, I don't remember anything specific about that.