Yes, I vaguely remember that during my second year at SCC, the director of our college choir was Johnny Carl, who was a somewhat accomplished musician, but he was only at our college for one year. Later he went to the Crystal Cathedral and for many years was directing their famous Christmas pageants and music program. I remember hearing that Roberts would be studying musical composition privately from Mr. Carl, so that sounded interesting. Later Roberts did a recital of her musical compositions, interesting. I don't know much else about that, I left about then and did not hear very much about what happened later, whatever were those upheavals in the music department. Nobody ever tells me anything.