Yes, I vaguely remember at SCC, there was a girl down the hall who was an excellent artist. One day some people were standing around the door of her dorm and were saying to me that I should not consider myself artistic as compared to her, and then I looked in her room and I saw some of her paintings or drawings on the wall and they were amazing, she really was very talented at art, and wouldn't I just look ridiculous claiming to be artistic compared to that, although it seemed strange for them to make such a point of emphasizing my NOT being artistic because until then I was barely aware of this person being there and had not previously that about her.