Yes, it will be very difficult for underground tent-sewers like Mark and Linda to aspire to the church superintendency when there is no visible fruit of their ministry to be tasted by all, mostly just a lot of rotten apples being thrown around. I don't know what everyone else is thinking but I personally would not be interested in lending any assistance to them. Greg is pathetic. I should not have to listen to his nonsense. I don't know why I never saw that before.