Yes, who can forget Mark and Jeannette, who I remember from early college days at Evangel, and also for a couple of years at Oakland Park. Later, he served as an AG pastor for some years but then I heard about his problem, something very sad happened, a child was left behind on the bus to fatal consequences. Even with his father being a head honcho with the AG perhaps does not spare him the consequences of that unfortunate event, so he probably has a serious problem going forward. But anyway I am only hearing about all of this third-hand. I was not there and cannot say that I know anything firsthand about that.