Yes, after having gone to Magic Mountain, I can easily see that those Vineyard people are ir at least were the lowest level of clueless riff-raff, or at least could be potentially construed that way, but I cannot remember their names now or who I might have discussed this with so it is hard for me to say anything else about them now, nor do I wish to be reminded of that mostly uneventful day. Why do I have to explain this? One roller coaster ride is very much like another, more or less.