Years ago Grandpa Calkins was traveling with Ed Cole, a minister who wrote a book called "Maximized Manhood" and who had an extensive men's ministry. Grandpa Calkins said that he arrived at a church somewhere in Colorado maybe but that Ed Cole's flight was delayed or something and did not arrive at all so the people there had Grandpa Calkins say a few words from the pulpit on his behalf. He said that it made him very nervous because he is not really a minister and not accustomed to public speaking. That is all that I would be able to remember about that.