Anyway, it was merely coincidence that had Stephanie sitting at our table, and the fact that she was good friends with Patricia Sarravia. But there was nothing personal that I would want to discuss with her. She was very busy playing politics so, yes, I really could not explain to her right then anything that about what that did or did not mean to me. Yes, I remember that Raymond and some other people were at another table making a lot of noise but really Raymond was a rather dim bulb if you ask me.